Electric Cars Spotted

General car gossip.

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:04 pm

Looks nice - is that a sort of burgundy colour?
Glad to hear you like it, I'm interested to hear a long term review eventually.

thekungfury wrote:That only matters on long journeys though as 10x30m trips will only use 100m of fuel, yagetme?


Only if the 30m trip starts and ends at a charging point with time to fully recharge (how long does that take btw?) each time. If your commute is 30 miles then sweet (as I assume you plug in when there) but for most other uses, you'd be only getting 20m benefit one way and then using just petrol on the return.
User avatar
Tokyo Sexwale
 
Posts: 50267
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by thekungfury @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm

It's just black. I guess the phone made it look odd.

You're right on the charging points and that's exactly what I have. I charge at home and at the office. Office charging point is a public unit a bit more expensive than at home (+30%) plus there will be days I can't use it if other selfish cnuts park up and block it. You're only meant to be there a maximum of 3hrs but sometimes it gets hogged all day.

Charging time depends on the type of charger. It came with a 3-pin cable and I'm using that at home whilst I wait for the free* home unit to be installed. 3-pin takes ~5hrs. Home pod unit will be ~3hrs.

Public charging time it depends on the type. The slowest will be 5hrs, quickest in half an hour. Most seem to be 3hr units.

* currently there is a government grant of £500 to install a home charger. So it's not free, you're paying for it. Thanks.
User avatar
thekungfury
 
Posts: 37769
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 pm
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Strawman @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:31 pm

thekungfury wrote:* currently there is a government grant of £500 to install a home charger. So it's not free, you're paying for it. Thanks.


You are indirectly too, I don't mind though, the air quality in parts of London (and other big cities) is damaging people's health, while I continue to emit carbons in my old tech car, electric cars appear to be only the only short term solution so subsidies make sense.
User avatar
Strawman
 
Posts: 41169
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:50 pm
Location: insignificant next to the power of the force

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:39 pm

thekungfury wrote:* currently there is a government grant of £500 to install a home charger. So it's not free, you're paying for it. Thanks.


No worries, it's your money used to pay me to pay you. So you are paying for it, after I've dirtied the money first.
User avatar
Tokyo Sexwale
 
Posts: 50267
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by thekungfury @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:55 pm

Strawman wrote:
thekungfury wrote:* currently there is a government grant of £500 to install a home charger. So it's not free, you're paying for it. Thanks.

You are indirectly too, I don't mind though, the air quality in parts of London (and other big cities) is damaging people's health, while I continue to emit carbons in my old tech car, electric cars appear to be only the only short term solution so subsidies make sense.

I'm also sold on the idea of being less reliant oil from brutal Middle Eastern regimes. I live in hope that one day we'll be able to say "No, we will not sell you huge amounts of armsso that we can have access to your oil"

But mainly I like it for silent swooshing
User avatar
thekungfury
 
Posts: 37769
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 pm
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Il Duce @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:29 pm

thekungfury wrote:
Strawman wrote:
thekungfury wrote:* currently there is a government grant of £500 to install a home charger. So it's not free, you're paying for it. Thanks.

You are indirectly too, I don't mind though, the air quality in parts of London (and other big cities) is damaging people's health, while I continue to emit carbons in my old tech car, electric cars appear to be only the only short term solution so subsidies make sense.

I'm also sold on the idea of being less reliant oil from brutal Middle Eastern regimes. I live in hope that one day we'll be able to say "No, we will not sell you huge amounts of armsso that we can have access to your oil"

But mainly I like it for silent swooshing


Lovely idea but you forget that plastic comes from oil. I think.

So. No condoms. Result- thousands of Rod Rammages* everywhere.


*From now on I am going to refer to Rod as if he's still on here and maybe by the power of beetlejuice, if we say it enough, he'll come back.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14099
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Strawman @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:02 pm

Il Duce wrote:So. No condoms.


Condoms are mainly made from rubber, AFAIK, hence being called rubbers, or party balloons etc.

Also also, the amount of oil the plastics industry needs could be met by producers outside of shitbag dictators in Saudi Arabia et al.
User avatar
Strawman
 
Posts: 41169
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:50 pm
Location: insignificant next to the power of the force

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Pigeon @ Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:58 pm

thekungfury wrote:I'm also sold on the idea of being less reliant oil from brutal Middle Eastern regimes. I live in hope that one day we'll be able to say "No, we will not sell you huge amounts of armsso that we can have access to your oil"


:thumbup:

Of course, that has been a reason for getting off fossil fuels that was still compelling back when "climate change" meant the imminent onset of the next ice age. And still is, and deserves rather more notice than it gets. After all, CO2 is something you can argue about until the cows come home, but the answer to "are the Saudis cnuts?" is easy, just ask Yemen.

Of course also, though, the arms dealers won't agree with either of them. So it's all Dirk's fault really.
User avatar
Pigeon
CTF Technical Expert
CTF Technical Expert
 
Posts: 24580
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:50 pm
Location: All alone in the crazy city

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Dirk @ Sat May 11, 2019 8:23 pm

Remember this?

Dirk wrote:
Dirk wrote:I see Musk has apologised to the cave diver.

Not sure if the diver will insist he puts a cherry on top to stop him going to court

Nope, instead Musk has repeated the attack, but more strongly

Elon Musk has again attacked a British diver he has previously accused without evidence of being a child abuser.

In an email to a reporter, Mr Musk said Vernon Unsworth - who assisted with the rescue of 12 Thai teenagers from a flooded cave - was a "child rapist".

In July he deleted the tweets but last week he appeared to repeat his allegation, tweeting that it was "strange he hasn't sued me" after Mr Unsworth said he was considering legal action.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45418245


Musk'w lawyers tried to claim it was all heat of the moment stuff protected by first amendment

LA judge has told them, legally speaking, that they are talking bollocks and Musk has to go to court

Date set is 22 Oct
User avatar
Dirk
 
Posts: 32500
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 pm
Highscores: 5

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by S1K @ Sat May 11, 2019 10:06 pm

Fingers crossed for the death penalty
User avatar
S1K
 
Posts: 7916
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:10 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by desertweasel @ Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:01 am

Whoa now this is very interesting (to me anyway) it looks like VW might have changed the classics game


I am part of a syndicate that bought a bunch of VW busses, I have one, another was killed by a mechanic and the other 4 are waiting to be restored. I have been researching electric power and there are a bunch of guys in California who have converted busses and beetles, Zelectric are doing great work and EVwest providing components but they have always struggled since everything is massively expensive and they are just trying to adapt stuff and hang them together and they never seem to be able to get any range out of them.

Well now VW have released an entire drive chain from an E-up and strapped it to the beetle chassis to replace the transaxle, this produces 80hp which is roughly equivalent to the power from the last fuel-injected bus engines and as someone who regularly drives one of these I'm telling you that is fine.
They are only getting 200km range but honestly that is fine and with a bus there would easily be the option of fitting more batteries, and it has regen and a fast charger. I cannot wait, in theory this should come in at a lot less than doing small batch conversions since it is being built on the VW assembly line.
And with equitable performance there is no real need for massive chassis and brake updates especially on the bus that had a payload of 1 ton anyway.
Image
https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/premiere-new-energy-for-the-beetle-5312 VW release
https://jalopnik.com/volkswagen-will-now-convert-classic-beetles-to-electric-1837900039

The hatred for this in the comments just makes me want to do this even more
Last edited by desertweasel on Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
desertweasel
 
Posts: 1048
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:11 pm
Location: Portugal

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by S1K @ Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:01 pm

Converting classic cars to electric power is getting to be big business. Aston Martin are even offering it in house with a fully reversible conversion.
User avatar
S1K
 
Posts: 7916
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:10 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Il Duce @ Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:05 pm

S1K wrote:Converting classic cars to electric power is getting to be big business. Aston Martin are even offering it in house with a fully reversible conversion.


Vespa do it too.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14099
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:20 pm

I saw my first Tesla taxi ( an airport car) the other day. Quite surprised the money’s in it to cover the lease.
User avatar
Tokyo Sexwale
 
Posts: 50267
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Aesgarth @ Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:33 pm

Tokyo Sexwale wrote:I saw my first Tesla taxi ( an airport car) the other day. Quite surprised the money’s in it to cover the lease.

I've seen a couple of tesla taxis up here (also airport cars) and thought the same. There's also a C63 AMG airport car about too though, so i guess it must pay pretty well.
Aesgarth
 
Posts: 5088
Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:19 pm
Location: http://www.aesgarth.co.uk/uploader/
Highscores: 4

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by CJ+ @ Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:28 am

Tokyo Sexwale wrote:I saw my first Tesla taxi ( an airport car) the other day. Quite surprised the money’s in it to cover the lease.

I have flitted around the Gatwick/Crawley/Reigate area in taxis quite a lot over the past few years, and there are several Teslas in the Airport Cars fleet. Also, E-class Mercs, a few Mondeo Vignales (they're really nice). No Jags or BMWs, though.
User avatar
CJ+
 
Posts: 17450
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:39 pm
Location: Lave Orbital Station
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:08 am

CJ+ wrote:
Tokyo Sexwale wrote:I saw my first Tesla taxi ( an airport car) the other day. Quite surprised the money’s in it to cover the lease.

I have flitted around the Gatwick/Crawley/Reigate area in taxis quite a lot over the past few years, and there are several Teslas in the Airport Cars fleet. Also, E-class Mercs, a few Mondeo Vignales (they're really nice). No Jags or BMWs, though.

This was a Gatwick car! They do seem to have their fair share of decent cars.
User avatar
Tokyo Sexwale
 
Posts: 50267
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by thekungfury @ Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:15 am

I wonder if there is a financial incentive for electric cars at the airport? Possibly also one for a taxi business to go electric?
User avatar
thekungfury
 
Posts: 37769
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 pm
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by S1K @ Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:29 am

I went to Amsterdam a few years ago and all the taxis seemed to be Teslas.
User avatar
S1K
 
Posts: 7916
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:10 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Tokyo Sexwale @ Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 am

thekungfury wrote:I wonder if there is a financial incentive for electric cars at the airport? Possibly also one for a taxi business to go electric?

I wondered that. An Uber driver told me recently that all Ubers will have to be hybrid by next year/now (pissed so can’t remember).
User avatar
Tokyo Sexwale
 
Posts: 50267
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by desertweasel @ Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:58 pm

thekungfury wrote:I wonder if there is a financial incentive for electric cars at the airport? Possibly also one for a taxi business to go electric?


I imagine so, when Emirates replaced their Volvo fleet of chauffeur drive cars with Mercedes in Dubai the cars were practically free though the additional servicing costs and general shitness of modern Mercs meant they soon regretted it.

Lost of new electric Ubers here and they have until next year to be either hybrid or all-electric with the all-electric ones getting free juice from the council chargers.
desertweasel
 
Posts: 1048
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:11 pm
Location: Portugal

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by thekungfury @ Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:29 pm

For obvious reasons car sales YTD are down 50% vs 2019 but electrified vehicles are booming and now account for 20% of all car sales this year. Full electric up 130% vs 219.
User avatar
thekungfury
 
Posts: 37769
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 pm
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Doctor Congo @ Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:27 pm

Where’s babyhuey when you need to antagonise someone.....
User avatar
Doctor Congo
 
Posts: 7391
Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:39 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by desertweasel @ Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:15 pm

Apparently all covid assistance to the German car industry is being given on condition none of it is spent on ICE products, this seems a bit drastic but is definitely going to shake up the market.
desertweasel
 
Posts: 1048
Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:11 pm
Location: Portugal

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by thekungfury @ Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:54 pm

desertweasel wrote:Apparently all covid assistance to the German car industry is being given on condition none of it is spent on ICE products, this seems a bit drastic but is definitely going to shake up the market.

The details are interesting. The €3k grant for buying a full electric vehicle will go up to €6k. Effectively makes a eGolf cost the same as a middle of the range model.

Screws BMW who don't have an electric car yet, only PHEV.
User avatar
thekungfury
 
Posts: 37769
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 pm
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Doctor Congo @ Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:43 pm

thekungfury wrote:
desertweasel wrote:Apparently all covid assistance to the German car industry is being given on condition none of it is spent on ICE products, this seems a bit drastic but is definitely going to shake up the market.

The details are interesting. The €3k grant for buying a full electric vehicle will go up to €6k. Effectively makes a eGolf cost the same as a middle of the range model.

Screws BMW who don't have an electric car yet, only PHEV.
Yes they do. The i3 is fully electric.
User avatar
Doctor Congo
 
Posts: 7391
Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:39 pm

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Damien Thorn @ Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:33 am

Doctor Congo wrote:
thekungfury wrote:
desertweasel wrote:Apparently all covid assistance to the German car industry is being given on condition none of it is spent on ICE products, this seems a bit drastic but is definitely going to shake up the market.

The details are interesting. The €3k grant for buying a full electric vehicle will go up to €6k. Effectively makes a eGolf cost the same as a middle of the range model.

Screws BMW who don't have an electric car yet, only PHEV.
Yes they do. The i3 is fully electric.
Yes. It's the only car I can think of where the actual engine is an option.
User avatar
Damien Thorn
Spamcop
Spamcop
 
Posts: 14657
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:24 am

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by thekungfury @ Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:10 am

Oh yeah. I rarely see them in the wild so forget about them.
User avatar
thekungfury
 
Posts: 37769
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:27 pm
Highscores: 1

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Käsemeister @ Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:57 pm

Damien Thorn wrote:
Doctor Congo wrote:
thekungfury wrote:
desertweasel wrote:Apparently all covid assistance to the German car industry is being given on condition none of it is spent on ICE products, this seems a bit drastic but is definitely going to shake up the market.

The details are interesting. The €3k grant for buying a full electric vehicle will go up to €6k. Effectively makes a eGolf cost the same as a middle of the range model.

Screws BMW who don't have an electric car yet, only PHEV.
Yes they do. The i3 is fully electric.
Yes. It's the only car I can think of where the actual engine is an option.


Not even that any more. I looked at one as it was perfect for my mother but then they stopped doing the range extender and it went battery only which is far less useful to her.
User avatar
Käsemeister
 
Posts: 37582
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:24 pm
Location: Hanging on in quiet desperation.

Re: Electric Cars Spotted

Post by Pigeon @ Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:35 pm

Electric vehicle maintenance. :)

brushes2.jpg
brushes2.jpg (130.51 KiB) Viewed 148 times
User avatar
Pigeon
CTF Technical Expert
CTF Technical Expert
 
Posts: 24580
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:50 pm
Location: All alone in the crazy city

PreviousNext

Return to Car Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

yt
  Enable youtube titles