Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Two wheels good.

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:57 am

Good progress. You've earned yourself a burger for sure.

O/T - This firebreak lockdown. As a business owner, does it feel like short term pain for long term gain, or just short term pain?
User avatar
manfromdelmonte
 
Posts: 1521
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:34 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by tanglerat @ Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:07 am

Good reading. Always interesting.
User avatar
tanglerat
Ruler of the Queen's Navee
 
Posts: 7921
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:49 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:43 pm

manfromdelmonte wrote:Good progress. You've earned yourself a burger for sure.

O/T - This firebreak lockdown. As a business owner, does it feel like short term pain for long term gain, or just short term pain?


It's a waste of time and money, it won't change anything. All of my customers think the same too. There is a definite feeling of rebellion across all age groups. I doubt that fvcking druid will get away with doing this again.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:06 pm

I guess that would be the thinking from those affected directly by it.

Having done a 14 day quarantine after a holiday, I left my house at the end of it 100% sure that I don't have CV19. If I extrapolate that thinking it to a whole country, I can't see how it wouldn't have a huge effect. But that's before I consider that there are still essential services/workers that have to carry on throughout.
User avatar
manfromdelmonte
 
Posts: 1521
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:34 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:37 am

Productive lockdown afternoon.

First I built this for my niece

Image

Then I went home and started on the bastard side of the engine.
Crank bearing removed
Image
And new one refitted
Image

Blind drive bearing removed
Image
Image
And a new one refitted
Image
Crank re-installed in cases
Image
Clutch bell refitted
Image
Not forgetting the all important circlip
Image

Remember how I was dreading this? Well it went like one of those tutorial videos you see on youtube: absolutely perfectly
When I checked the time stamps on the first and last photos it appeared that I'd completed all of that (bar the pink bike) in 21 minutes.

As we all know the YIN massive success of this part of the build means that the YANG part is going to be catastrophic.

Keep watching!
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:25 pm

The pink bike looks excellent, are they real leather straps and seat? It looks a cut above the usual shite.
User avatar
manfromdelmonte
 
Posts: 1521
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:34 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Deuteronomy @ Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:24 pm

Nice progress ID!
User avatar
Deuteronomy
 
Posts: 18328
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:57 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:18 pm

manfromdelmonte wrote:The pink bike looks excellent, are they real leather straps and seat? It looks a cut above the usual shite.

Unfortunately not, they are plastic.
That said the bike is very well constructed- not the usual eastasian rubbish, although it probably was made there.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 am

Well the bastardo workshop fairies have been at work. I went to start rebuilding the engine, full of hope and found that right at the first stage, where I fit the gear selector, a shitty little wavy washer was missing. Somehow when I upgraded the part in the last post I must have put it down or dropped it. Normal washers I have in spades but wavy ones- none. Without it can't fit the gear selector so can't move any further forward. Balls.

Never mind. The big rubber washer (that I'd only ordered 1 of instead of 2) for the front suspension arrived and so i completed the front fork/brake/hub rebuild.

Image

Then I stripped down the petrol tank ready for paint, removing the fuel tap and finding zero rust inside the tank. Yay!
I removed the petrol cap and rubbed it down. In the process I discovered that the scooter had been originally orange, then red, then white, then blue and red again. I thought about putting it back to orange but I already have one that colour so it just confirms my choice of green.
Image

That's it for this week. Waiting for parts.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Dirk @ Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:03 am

Il Duce wrote:
That's it for this week. Waiting for parts.

This always seems to be a problem. But I think there is a solution. When you start a new restoration project, also buy a new scooter the same that has already been restored. Then you will know that you have all the spare parts on hand
User avatar
Dirk
 
Posts: 32702
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 pm
Highscores: 5

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:01 pm

Dirk wrote:
Il Duce wrote:
That's it for this week. Waiting for parts.

This always seems to be a problem. But I think there is a solution. When you start a new restoration project, also buy a new scooter the same that has already been restored. Then you will know that you have all the spare parts on hand


I now have an idea who is helping Boris make decisions.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by S1K @ Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:26 pm

Maybe you could do a YouTube series on your next one.
User avatar
S1K
 
Posts: 8157
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:10 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:58 am

S1K wrote:Maybe you could do a YouTube series on your next one.


I can't think of anything I'd hate more.
You bastards are bad enough when someone posts a photo, (ooh your clock is too big, ooh your burger looks dry, ooh that's not straight*) with a series of videos you'd have a field day!


*all the stuff in brackets sounds like a carry-on film script.
Last edited by Il Duce on Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Deuteronomy @ Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:50 am

Il Duce wrote:your clock is too big


Deuteronomy approves this message.
User avatar
Deuteronomy
 
Posts: 18328
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:57 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:57 am

Productive couple of hours in the workshop.

Kickstart fitted
Image
Gear cluster fitted
Image
Gear selector fitted
Image
Engine cases closed although despite being bagged and labelled, the garage pixies had hidden one engine bolt which took me 20 minutes to find. Shits!
Image
Image
Primary drive fitted and torqued
Image
Clutch fitt.. oh hang on... the bloody woodruff key that fits in that slot is nowhere to be found.
Ah well. On stop. "Waiting for parts"
Image
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:40 pm

Good progress.

Do you feel your parts management process could do with a bit of refinement? It seems to double the length of each of your builds.
User avatar
manfromdelmonte
 
Posts: 1521
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:34 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Deuteronomy @ Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:55 pm

manfromdelmonte wrote:Good progress.

Do you feel your parts management process could do with a bit of refinement? It seems to double the length of each of your builds.


Yeah, I was thinking along similar lines
User avatar
Deuteronomy
 
Posts: 18328
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:57 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:45 pm

Deuteronomy wrote:
manfromdelmonte wrote:Good progress.

Do you feel your parts management process could do with a bit of refinement? It seems to double the length of each of your builds.


Yeah, I was thinking along similar lines


It's ok, there's no rush.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:05 am

Bloody garage pixies!

The woodruff key arrived so I looked for the holding nut and lo and behold the old woodruff key was in the bag with it.
Anyway, off we go!
Clutch fitted
Image
Pressure plate and gasket fitted
Image

Rear hub fitted
Image
Cylinder fitted, not forgetting to make sure the ring ends are slotted into where the notches are on the piston!
Image
Head fitted and torqued
Image

Right, lets fit the intake pipe. Naturally the new gasket will be in the pack I bought.
The f*** it is! Four versions on the exhaust but NO intake. Shit.
Image

Never mind I'll fit the exhaust outlet pipe.
Image
And as I can't pressure test it because of the inlet gasket I might as well spray the first part of the exhaust with VHT
Image
On with some new wheels
Image
Image
...except the second on has one nut that's solid. Not to worry, whilst the other tyre was fairly new, this one looks older than my pants so I've ordered a new tyre and inner tube.
Image

And that's it, no real problems. I have a couple more checks to make then I think I'll send the tins for paint.


On second thoughts, I've looked more closely at that first tyre and it's cracking so I've ordered another.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:51 am

Fruitful day in the workshop.

Inlet manifold fitted, and elbow removed from outlet manifold as it wasn't needed.
Image
Image
Leak test performed and passed!
Image

Carb serviced. It was a faulty one I'd brought back from my other Vespa in Italy. It was making the engine rev it's bollocks off and you'd have to stall it to stop the engine. It was puzzling as I'd done a full service on it 6 months earlier. When I stripped it down I found that the choke jet had loosened itself and this was causing the problem. result!
Image
Stator fitted and set.
Image
Flywheel fitted and torqued.
Image
I would have started it but the carb clamp was from the old 16 16 carb and I've now fitted a 19 19 and didn't fit. Didn't matter anyway as I didn't have the right spark plug so I ordered both. Waiting for parts... shut up!

And finally, new speedo cable and front brake cable fitted.
Image

Sprayer has no space for me until after Christmas so, as I have lots of time now, I'll be fitting the new loom and full cable set and then bagging the ends to protect them.

More importantly, if the clamp and plug arrive it'll be ready to start... try and start it next week. Yay!
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by tanglerat @ Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:12 am

Why isn't the outlet manifold elbow needed, and why was it there in the first place?
What benefits to you in removing it?
User avatar
tanglerat
Ruler of the Queen's Navee
 
Posts: 7921
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:49 pm

Re: Puke Green Nifty Fifty

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:29 am

tanglerat wrote:Why isn't the outlet manifold elbow needed, and why was it there in the first place?
What benefits to you in removing it?


Good questions!!!
It was on the engine when I stripped it down so I presumed it was meant to go back on. It appears that it fits the original 1 piece exhaust which was in the box of bits but is rusted to feck. The previous owner had bought a 2 piece Leo Vince "sports" exhaust to replace it, which he included in the sale and this has the outlet manifold you now see fitted.

This is one problem when you buy a box of bits instead of stripping it down yourself. Another is the multiple ordering of small parts throughout the build, as normally you would have made a list of needs while stripping down.
Il Duce
Italian Person
Italian Person
 
Posts: 14251
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:08 am
Location: #vespaenginematters

Previous

Return to Bike Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

yt
  Enable youtube titles