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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by desertweasel @ Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:37 am

So is all of that exhaust going to fit under a standard body? Hope so, it would make a great stealth scooter.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:01 pm

desertweasel wrote:So is all of that exhaust going to fit under a standard body? Hope so, it would make a great stealth scooter.


Not really. Sort of like this...
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Anyway it's going to be as loud as a woman so stealth really won't enter in to it.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:06 am

Another vespanut has had an idea. If I flip the exhaust 180 degrees where it joins the manifold pipe I'll be able to stick it in the engine stand to start it.

I think I could have this running with about an hours work but you just know that boriscvnt will make everyone stay home for 2 weeks the minute I do, so I'm leaving it untouched until I know more.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:10 am

I am a Vespa God!

Started 2nd kick.

Just need to refit the exhaust the right way (it wouldn't fit in the engine stand with it fitted correctly) and then mount it in the Vespa. Yay!


Who needs a fvcking welder?


Original video page: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQz2hOPArVc&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Deuteronomy @ Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:52 am

Excellent work!
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:52 pm

Il Duce wrote:Who needs a fvcking welder?


You. You need a welder.

Nice work though. Shame it's yellow.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by desertweasel @ Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:17 pm

Great stuff
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by CJ+ @ Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:30 pm

Good work, but are you wearing waders in that clip?
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by DI Burnside @ Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:35 pm

CJ+ wrote:Good work, but are you wearing waders in that clip?


He lives in Wales remember, they call them slippers.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 am

DI Burnside wrote:
CJ+ wrote:Good work, but are you wearing waders in that clip?


He lives in Wales remember, they call them slippers.


They are my slip-ons.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:32 am

Engine is back in the frame. Utter bastard job because that fancy exhaust got in the way of the scooter lift.

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Also fitted the plate for the cdi and regulator. Just need to connect it up and it should be good to go.

Should be.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:29 pm

The colour looks far more golden in that first picture and far more canary in the second. Which is closest to real life?

Also, what are the plans for this one? I can't remember.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:41 pm

manfromdelmonte wrote:The colour looks far more golden in that first picture and far more canary in the second. Which is closest to real life?

Also, what are the plans for this one? I can't remember.


The first photo is closer. It's Renault Megane RS pearl yellow if that's any help.

Plan was to ship this to Italy and bring the orange one back.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:33 pm

Nice, it looks good.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:26 am

Wiring connected and carb fitted


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Hole drilled in body and grommet fitted so that I can adjust the tickover with a screwdriver instead of trying to stick my hand into an impossibly small space to try and turn it.
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I need to run the carb cable up to the throttle. Connecting it will be an utter bastard of a job due to the lack of space inside the headset.

After that I'll check that it runs and then connect the gear, clutch and brake cables- another shitty job.
Then I need to change the fuel tap on the tank to a fast flow version- another shitty job- bolt on the tank connect and then test ride it. The gears and brakes will probably need adjusting but then it should be finished.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:37 am

Quite a lot of shitty but all doable.

Four (or five) quick questions if I may:

1. When this one is done, what's next?
2. Will you be able to give it a decent test ride? Are you expecting it to be quick (relatively)?
3. Did you rust protect your hole, with paint or at least grease etc.?
4. How much faster would this have been if you'd have owned a welder?
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Strawman @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:40 am

manfromdelmonte wrote:3. Did you rust protect your hole, with paint or at least grease etc.?


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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:54 am

manfromdelmonte wrote:Quite a lot of shitty but all doable.

Four (or five) quick questions if I may:

1. When this one is done, what's next?
2. Will you be able to give it a decent test ride? Are you expecting it to be quick (relatively)?
3. Did you rust protect your hole, with paint or at least grease etc.?
4. How much faster would this have been if you'd have owned a welder?


1. I was going to ship this to Italy and bring the orange one back for a full refurb as I didn't do that one myself and I'm not totally happy with it. Maybe a colour change to this but with a white seat and maybe an engine upgrade.

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2. I live down a lane so I should be able to go for a couple of miles without problems. Standard they are about 6-7 bhp. This one should be low to mid 20's so it should be nice and quick. Once you get them up to above 30 bhp they become un-rideable and you can't keep the front wheel down.
3. Yes I dabbed a bit of paint on it.
4. About 3 months longer with a welder due to the hospital time from burns and shocks.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Pigeon @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:38 pm

Il Duce wrote:Standard they are about 6-7 bhp. This one should be low to mid 20's so it should be nice and quick.


Cor. Looking forward to your test report and finding out what such a large increase has done to the engine's characteristics.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:50 pm

Pigeon wrote:
Il Duce wrote:Standard they are about 6-7 bhp. This one should be low to mid 20's so it should be nice and quick.


Cor. Looking forward to your test report and finding out what such a large increase has done to the engine's characteristics.


The pipe, carb and porting should mean that it has some decent low down torque with a good spread of power across the rev rang and is not one of those on/off 2 stroke screamers with super narrow power band.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:42 pm

Thanks for the answers. That's a pretty mega power increase.

Please buy a welder. Your earlier calamities and cock-ups have been missing lately.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by S1K @ Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:39 pm

How many cc’s are the Vespa engines?
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:07 am

S1K wrote:How many cc’s are the Vespa engines?


Ranges from 50 to 200 in standard 2 stroke.

Smallframes are 50 to 125 cc
Largeframes are 125 to 200 cc


Someone just got 94.4 bhp out of a smallframe. No idea of specs but it's probably over 200cc water cooled 2 stroke.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Aesgarth @ Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:15 pm

Il Duce wrote:
S1K wrote:How many cc’s are the Vespa engines?


Ranges from 50 to 200 in standard 2 stroke.

Smallframes are 50 to 125 cc
Largeframes are 125 to 200 cc


Someone just got 94.4 bhp out of a smallframe. No idea of specs but it's probably over 200cc water cooled 2 stroke.

That's mental. Similar power level to my (600cc) motorbike.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:19 pm

Aesgarth wrote:
Il Duce wrote:
S1K wrote:How many cc’s are the Vespa engines?


Ranges from 50 to 200 in standard 2 stroke.

Smallframes are 50 to 125 cc
Largeframes are 125 to 200 cc


Someone just got 94.4 bhp out of a smallframe. No idea of specs but it's probably over 200cc water cooled 2 stroke.

That's mental. Similar power level to my (600cc) motorbike.


It must be unrideable. In the video it seemed hard enough just to run it on the dyno.
That sort of bhp is just a sort of "look what we're able to do" done by tuning companies.
Anything over 30bhp spends most of the time wheelying.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Pigeon @ Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:02 pm

So... you sit on the handlebars instead of on the seat, to weigh the front down?

Some bugger must have tried it, even if they only did it once.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:23 am

Pigeon wrote:So... you sit on the handlebars instead of on the seat, to weigh the front down?

Some bugger must have tried it, even if they only did it once.


It's not literally unrideable, it's just a fvkcing handfull. Imagine a Ford Cortina standard apart from adding 1000bhp.
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Il Duce @ Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:51 pm

I finally finished it and went up and down the lane.

I couldn't really give it the beans as it's running in but it was very impressive all the same.

So. Time for another project!
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by Damien Thorn @ Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:09 pm

Well impressed!
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Re: Vespa 125 Banana.

Post by manfromdelmonte @ Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:15 pm

Assuming it could be months before you can get the orange one back, it's time to get on eBay and find something else to keep us entertained.

Nice work on the banana though. How long is the running in process?
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