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Post by Dr Wolff @ Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Disastrous wrote:

>shrug<

It doesn’t owe me anything and is built like an actual tank. It’s every bit as good as my Omega really, and has some sentimental value so would hate to lose it in the sea to a cheap strap.


Just catching up with this thread. I have a cautionary tale to tell. I lent my PRS 18 to Wolverine Minimus on a windsurfing holiday. It was on an Obris Morgan isofrane-a-like strap, good enough quality, but I came back to the beach to a tearful boy who had lost it to the Atlantic Ocean. Neither of us knows if the strap failed or a spring bar failed, but I won't take any watch watersporting that isn't on a nato or Zulu strap. The nylon washes well, is practically indestructible and if one spring bar fails there is a good chance the watch will be saved by the other.
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Post by Me. @ Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:29 pm

Since last on here I've also gone a bit overboard with watches......I've bought/traded...
Oris Big Pointer Bronze
Oris Williams F1 Lefty
Omega Dynamic circa 1980's Chrono
Eberhard scafograf super 500 Circa 1970's
U-Boat Silver
Gerrard Peregaux Sea Hawk
A bunch of Seiko's incl some home-made.....Two Tuna builds, Oris Turtle etc.
As a result I now have a total of 74.....most of which are cheap (Seconda/Accurist/Rotary) but aesthetically pleasing and mainly all waterproof.

I just bought this lovely Seiko based (7002 mech I believe?) with fish-bone hands and mother of pearl.

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Post by Dr Wolff @ Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:33 am

The Omega Dynamic chrono is a great watch, very nice
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Post by Strawman @ Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:46 am

Got my new 1940's Russian watch today, with Il-2 on th e face and black NATO strap, nice thing and given to pilots of this plane during WW2 I think.
Seller's photo

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A bit about the plane, also known as the flying tank becasue the German's couldn't shoot it down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-2

Recipient of the "Hero of the Soviet Union", T. Kuznetsov, survived the crash of his Il-2 in 1942 when shot down returning from a reconnaissance mission. Kuznetsov escaped from the wreck and hid nearby. To his surprise, a German Bf 109 fighter landed near the crash site and the pilot began to investigate the wrecked Il-2, possibly to assist Kuznetsov, or to look for souvenirs. Thinking quickly, Kuznetsov ran to the German fighter and used it to fly home, barely avoiding being shot down by Soviet fighters in the process.
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Post by manfromdelmonte @ Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:55 pm

I haven't worn a watch since the start of lockdown. I don't really know why, but I'm a bit scared to open my watch box as I spent many hundreds of pounds getting my favourite watch repaired just before.
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Post by Clown Ice Skater #4 @ Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:12 pm

Like that, strawms. Very nice.

I haven't worn a watch for years and I really should as I have a couple of nice ones.
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:49 pm

Arrived yesterday. Lemania 5012, SAAF second hand, French day wheel, so maybe military but there are no markings on the case backImage
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Post by Strawman @ Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:31 pm

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Post by minimoog @ Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:47 pm

Lovely. I'd have that on a bund.
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:13 am

minimoog wrote:Lovely. I'd have that on a bund.
Yup, the thought occured to me
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Post by manfromdelmonte @ Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:38 pm

I just saw this in a photograph of a job lot of old watches for sale. I'm assuming it's a horrid fake?

Otherwise...

This time next year we'll be millionaires.

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Post by S1K @ Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:47 pm

No one sells genuine old Patek Phillippe watches cheaply.
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Post by Me. @ Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:14 pm

There's a genuine Omega Speedmaster bimetal for sale at a place I normally deal with. I absolutely want it but at £3500 it's not something I can justify. However, I spoke to the owners about doing a bit of a trade so this weds I'm taking in......U-Boat Silver edition, 1/500 Oris Williams F1 Team Lefty, Omega Dynamic Chrono (1980's),1/1000 Gerrard Perregaux Sea Hawk Challenger of Record and a Swiss Army (Victorinox) quartz/compass. I also have an Oris Big Pointer in Bronze but like the Omega Dynamic I'd be hard pressed to get rid of that.
I know these guys have to make money but I also know that for one.... big watches are out of fashion so that doesn't bode well for the U-Boat , and the Numbered Oris has the wrong box...so someone is running around with my box and I have theirs.
Thing is...am I being daft getting rid of a couple of the above (the U-boat I don't care for at all anyway) just for the Speedmaster? And chances are I'll have to throw some cash in the deal as well.
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:27 pm

I'd definitely keep the Dynamic (until I can afford to buy it off you!), and probably the GP. The Oris Williams and the U-boat are definitely not in fashion and prices going nowhere. I am not sure you will get a lot for the Victorinox. Bronze is a personal thing - if you love it, wear it and keep it.

Are you very much in love with bi-metal and this Speedie? I haven't seen a lot of love for them, so I wonder if you couldn't beat that price down considerably. Stainless Speedie Pro moonwatches (recent ones) seem to fetch about £2600-2800 for full set with big box and baubles
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Post by Me. @ Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:27 pm

I'd trade the Dynamic for the Speedie, or do you think that's a mistake especially if I have to throw another decent watch and/or some cash in?
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:11 pm

I think you will have to top up quite a lot if you want to trade the Dynamic, maybe £1500 or more. I don't know how much the GP is worth but found this
https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ec ... lot.4.html
So yours would be a trade down, giving you back cash. I wouldn't want to sell that for a speedie though

My worry about adding in more watches is that it smacks slightly of desperation, like a school boy rooting out his pockets to find the last button. You may get less favourable trade in values the more you throw in to the mix
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Post by Me. @ Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:53 pm

I get your point....I'm taking a few down to him to see what sort of deal we could structure....TBH I'm not a fan of the GP,and looking at online auctions the pricing seemes to be at what he's asking for the Speedie. So a straight swap or maybe one of the lesser watches and some cash, or something like the dynamic plus the Oris, which seems to fetch around 1500.
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Post by minimoog @ Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:07 pm

He'll want a profit so he won't do a straight swap if they're of equal value.
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Post by Me. @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:40 am

Well....no deal to be had there. Offered me £1000 for the Omega Dynamic Chrono....which in all fairness isn't a bad offer for a watch needing a service and no box/papers. But the figures bandied about for the others I took in are way too low even though I understand his point of view and that some of them are hard sells. The U-Boat Silver is a massive watch at around 50mm and no longer in fashion, the Girrard might sell for around the 4K mark (most are advertised at this price range but there's quite a few available) but I won't take less than 2K for that and the daft offer of 500 quid on the Oris Williams Lefty is just annoying. So I'll leave the U-Boat and the Girrard on consignment since I like neither of them, take the Oris and Omega back and wait to see if the other two sell before making any decisions. As nice as the Speedie is I'm not into throwing another Omega into the deal plus cash that I can use profitably elsewhere.
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:29 am

I think that was how I envisaged it going, unfortunately. I don't know why there is no love for the Williams at the moment, it's a good watch but it's missing its market somehow - everyone is killing themselves over stainless Rolex sports and the new Omegas (so many limited editions coming out - it's ridiculous)
The Dynamic is still the most interesting to me. I don't think box and papers is an issue for these. When Omega first brought out the Dynamic, it was priced at the lower end of the range and, unusually for Omega, was packaged in a tin, not a box. Virtually none of these are around any more, lost, thrown away etc so a full set D is a bit of a unicorn.
Anyway, Me., if you wanted to sell it, I would be in a position to make you an offer in the new year (next year's watch budget!). Personally, I would service it and enjoy wearing it
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Post by minimoog @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:11 am

I think box and papers on older watches are like mileage on a classic car. Nobody cares - it's the condition that matters.
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:13 pm

minimoog wrote:I think box and papers on older watches are like mileage on a classic car. Nobody cares - it's the condition that matters.
Unless it's a Rolex, in which case the amount of flagellation that goes on over whether it has the right papers, wallet, even the right calendar for the year just makes me shudder. There are certain forums I would never dare sell a watch...
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Post by Il Duce @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:17 pm

Dr Wolff wrote:
minimoog wrote:I think box and papers on older watches are like mileage on a classic car. Nobody cares - it's the condition that matters.
Unless it's a Rolex, in which case the amount of flagellation that goes on over whether it has the right papers, wallet, even the right calendar for the year just makes me shudder. There are certain forums I would never dare sell a watch...


My friend is a dealer and he says "box and papers" does make a difference to the price to the point that he buys empty boxes to match with unboxed watches.
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Post by Dr Wolff @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:05 pm

Il Duce wrote:
Dr Wolff wrote:
minimoog wrote:I think box and papers on older watches are like mileage on a classic car. Nobody cares - it's the condition that matters.
Unless it's a Rolex, in which case the amount of flagellation that goes on over whether it has the right papers, wallet, even the right calendar for the year just makes me shudder. There are certain forums I would never dare sell a watch...


My friend is a dealer and he says "box and papers" does make a difference to the price to the point that he buys empty boxes to match with unboxed watches.
I sold a Rolex box to a dealer (undeclared, the bastard) for £120 recently. A cardboard box!
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Post by Me. @ Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:46 pm

Dr Wolff wrote:Anyway, Me., if you wanted to sell it, I would be in a position to make you an offer in the new year (next year's watch budget!). Personally, I would service it and enjoy wearing it


Cheers ...I'll keep in touch re that one.
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